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		<title>Comment on Accused Surfer Murderer Cks Into Rehab by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2007/06/02/accused-surfer-murderer-cks-into-rehab/#comment-8635</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bird Rock Bandits in court accused of being a gang by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/05/12/bird-rock-bandits-in-court-accused-of-being-a-gang/#comment-8634</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bird Rock Bandits not a gang says Judge by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/05/22/bird-rock-bandits-not-a-gang-says-judge/#comment-8633</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on College QB charged in Surfer Death by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2007/09/10/college-qb-charged-in-surfer-death/#comment-8632</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bird-brain Five Preliminary Hearing by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2007/09/21/bird-brain-five-preliminary-hearing/#comment-8631</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bird Rock Bandits Take Plea Deal by Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/06/28/bird-rock-bandits-take-plea-deal/#comment-8630</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird Rock Bandits to be sued &#124; Mark's Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8566</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 
It's just you and I here.
I know what I'm saying and I can see that you continue to misstate what I have said.

Sind I'm the one who made my statements, it doesn't make much sense for you to try to twist and distort what I say.

It's just you and I, and it doesn't make much sense to distort what I said.
I was the one who said it.

Their isn’t any crowd to play to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
It&#8217;s just you and I here.<br />
I know what I&#8217;m saying and I can see that you continue to misstate what I have said.</p>
<p>Sind I&#8217;m the one who made my statements, it doesn&#8217;t make much sense for you to try to twist and distort what I say.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just you and I, and it doesn&#8217;t make much sense to distort what I said.<br />
I was the one who said it.</p>
<p>Their isn’t any crowd to play to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8565</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you and I are the only ones posting for the last 60 posts.
And the few others who posted 60 posts ago seemed to agree with me.
Who are “the rest of us” who are tired of my "drivel"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you and I are the only ones posting for the last 60 posts.<br />
And the few others who posted 60 posts ago seemed to agree with me.<br />
Who are “the rest of us” who are tired of my &#8220;drivel&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8564</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I know you think you are cute, but the rest of us have tired of your non-stop drivel. "

Who are "the rest of us"?

Am I missing posts to this thread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know you think you are cute, but the rest of us have tired of your non-stop drivel. &#8221;</p>
<p>Who are &#8220;the rest of us&#8221;?</p>
<p>Am I missing posts to this thread?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8563</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently."

And by that you must mean that White, a cop, will not be charged.

For one thing, he wasn't drug or alcohol tested. The cops said that a police only gets tested when there is some reason to believe he is under the influence.
I'm not saying he was under the influence. But I believe that was an example of special treatment.
A civilian involved in a road rage shooting would be tested.

I really believe the officials in charge of his case will let it slide with no charges brought against White.

We will have to see if that's how it turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently.&#8221;</p>
<p>And by that you must mean that White, a cop, will not be charged.</p>
<p>For one thing, he wasn&#8217;t drug or alcohol tested. The cops said that a police only gets tested when there is some reason to believe he is under the influence.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying he was under the influence. But I believe that was an example of special treatment.<br />
A civilian involved in a road rage shooting would be tested.</p>
<p>I really believe the officials in charge of his case will let it slide with no charges brought against White.</p>
<p>We will have to see if that&#8217;s how it turns out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Foley settles with Coronado by Foley Attorney seems to breach agreement &#124; Mark's Soap Box</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/07/02/steve-foley-settles-with-coronado/#comment-8562</link>
		<dc:creator>Foley Attorney seems to breach agreement &#124; Mark's Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by Mark</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK ... eye tee. There that is how you spell it.

I know you think you are cute, but the rest of us have tired of your non-stop drivel. You seem to be the only person on this planet who thinks that anyone can predict the future.

I say again:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I can't help you, if you speaky no ringlesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8230; eye tee. There that is how you spell it.</p>
<p>I know you think you are cute, but the rest of us have tired of your non-stop drivel. You seem to be the only person on this planet who thinks that anyone can predict the future.</p>
<p>I say again:</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t help you, if you speaky no ringlesh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8559</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about spelling it out.

If a private citizen did exactly what White did in exactly the same circumstances, 
would charges have been brought against that private citizen?

That would be a Yes or a No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about spelling it out.</p>
<p>If a private citizen did exactly what White did in exactly the same circumstances,<br />
would charges have been brought against that private citizen?</p>
<p>That would be a Yes or a No.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by Mark</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said: &lt;blockquote cite="Mark"&gt;If Silva had not put her child’s life in danger, she would have been arrested the minute the police arrived on the scene.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guess you missed that?

You said: &lt;blockquote&gt;I wan’t White’s actions to be judged by a jury of citizens, not the police department or the DA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not sure why you care if CCW folks are treated differently you want cops to be treated differently.

Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said:<br />
<blockquote cite="Mark">If Silva had not put her child’s life in danger, she would have been arrested the minute the police arrived on the scene.</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess you missed that?</p>
<p>You said:<br />
<blockquote>I wan’t White’s actions to be judged by a jury of citizens, not the police department or the DA.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure why you care if CCW folks are treated differently you want cops to be treated differently.</p>
<p>Oh and any situation involving a cop is ALWAYS handled differently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8557</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
You never did tell me if you believe this case is being handled the same way that it would be if White was a private citizen with a carry permit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
You never did tell me if you believe this case is being handled the same way that it would be if White was a private citizen with a carry permit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by Mark</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8556</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Officer White’s case is taking a VERY long time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really, It took almost a year for the DA to say they were not going to charge Mansker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Officer White’s case is taking a VERY long time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really, It took almost a year for the DA to say they were not going to charge Mansker.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8555</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officer White's case is taking a VERY long time.
I believe that they are waiting to let the public forget about the case before they announce that the will not bring charges against Officer White.

I will be pleasantly surprised if White is charged, but I think it more likely that the County will shove it under the carpet.

Mark,
You never did tell me if you believe this case is being handled the same way that it would be if White was a private citizen with a carry permit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officer White&#8217;s case is taking a VERY long time.<br />
I believe that they are waiting to let the public forget about the case before they announce that the will not bring charges against Officer White.</p>
<p>I will be pleasantly surprised if White is charged, but I think it more likely that the County will shove it under the carpet.</p>
<p>Mark,<br />
You never did tell me if you believe this case is being handled the same way that it would be if White was a private citizen with a carry permit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Miscarriage of Justice? by SanDiegoSunnyBuns</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2007/09/13/another-miscarriage-of-justice/#comment-8554</link>
		<dc:creator>SanDiegoSunnyBuns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie, this is for YOU!  You thought ANY parent making a mistake didn't have the "right" to have a child. Check out the research. This happens when the parents "break" their normal routine. In the case of the Father leaving his new baby daughter in her car seat when he got to work, because according to YOU, he was just SO excited to get to work......he actually had never dropped his daughter off at daycare before. It was the first time because his wife had to be at work early, so it was his breaking his "routine" that caused his daughters death. It was A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT that he will live with for the rest of his life. It happens ALLOT more than you think. Oh, and by the way, the father was never CHARGED with a crime. BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
Fact Sheet - Hyperthermia Deaths of Children in Vehicles
http://ggweather.com/heat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie, this is for YOU!  You thought ANY parent making a mistake didn&#8217;t have the &#8220;right&#8221; to have a child. Check out the research. This happens when the parents &#8220;break&#8221; their normal routine. In the case of the Father leaving his new baby daughter in her car seat when he got to work, because according to YOU, he was just SO excited to get to work&#8230;&#8230;he actually had never dropped his daughter off at daycare before. It was the first time because his wife had to be at work early, so it was his breaking his &#8220;routine&#8221; that caused his daughters death. It was A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT that he will live with for the rest of his life. It happens ALLOT more than you think. Oh, and by the way, the father was never CHARGED with a crime. BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!<br />
Fact Sheet - Hyperthermia Deaths of Children in Vehicles<br />
<a href="http://ggweather.com/heat/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://ggweather.com/heat/');" rel="nofollow">http://ggweather.com/heat/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by Mark</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8553</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your employer is not the government. Which by definition is the "people". So going to a jury would be having the employer -- in this instance -- and those who will have to pay the court costs and award, if any; is no different. And your employer will decide if the actions you take in their employ are acceptable or not.

Doesn't change the fact that the county, not the city is going to make this decision. Beyond that, the Feds also could bring charges. So portraying this as some cabal or kangaroo court is way off base.

You continue to ignore the facts and make up scenarios which are not at issue.

Both NYC and LA are Sanctuary cities that routinely violate Federal law to protect illegal aliens.  As for NYPD, and LAPD; do you really want the SDPD to be that incompetent? The problem with those two agencies is they are overseen by leftist kooks who are touchy-feely buffoons more worried about someone's feelings than about law enforcement. At the drop of hat they approve payouts for criminals who should be in prison, not at the pay window. No thanks, I will take what we have.

I was hoping you would provide a link to someting more substantial, say an FBI report, or a resource for police procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your employer is not the government. Which by definition is the &#8220;people&#8221;. So going to a jury would be having the employer &#8212; in this instance &#8212; and those who will have to pay the court costs and award, if any; is no different. And your employer will decide if the actions you take in their employ are acceptable or not.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the county, not the city is going to make this decision. Beyond that, the Feds also could bring charges. So portraying this as some cabal or kangaroo court is way off base.</p>
<p>You continue to ignore the facts and make up scenarios which are not at issue.</p>
<p>Both NYC and LA are Sanctuary cities that routinely violate Federal law to protect illegal aliens.  As for NYPD, and LAPD; do you really want the SDPD to be that incompetent? The problem with those two agencies is they are overseen by leftist kooks who are touchy-feely buffoons more worried about someone&#8217;s feelings than about law enforcement. At the drop of hat they approve payouts for criminals who should be in prison, not at the pay window. No thanks, I will take what we have.</p>
<p>I was hoping you would provide a link to someting more substantial, say an FBI report, or a resource for police procedure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cop Shoots Mom, PD circles wagons by AlwaysRight</title>
		<link>http://markljackson.net/2008/03/18/cop-shoots-mom-pd-circles-wagons/#comment-8551</link>
		<dc:creator>AlwaysRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Diego police department policy allows officers to shoot at a vehicle if it....
“poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.

So someone has to determine if it was reasonable for Officer White to use deadly force when he started shooting.

Since the County knows it will be facing civil lawsuits in this case, I believe the County should not make the decision on the validity of Officer White's claims of fear of death.

A jury should make that decision in a criminal court.

Officer White may have made a reasonable decision when he started shooting.
He may also have started shooting because he was angry and out of control.

It is not a black and white question.

If someone made me mad in a road rage incident, it would not be my option to kill that person and then claim I was afraid that the guy had a gun or was about to smash into my car.
My actions would have to be reasonable. And much like Joe Horn’s case in Texas, a jury should hear the evidence and decide if my actions were reasonable.

A jury, not my employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Diego police department policy allows officers to shoot at a vehicle if it&#8230;.<br />
“poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.</p>
<p>So someone has to determine if it was reasonable for Officer White to use deadly force when he started shooting.</p>
<p>Since the County knows it will be facing civil lawsuits in this case, I believe the County should not make the decision on the validity of Officer White&#8217;s claims of fear of death.</p>
<p>A jury should make that decision in a criminal court.</p>
<p>Officer White may have made a reasonable decision when he started shooting.<br />
He may also have started shooting because he was angry and out of control.</p>
<p>It is not a black and white question.</p>
<p>If someone made me mad in a road rage incident, it would not be my option to kill that person and then claim I was afraid that the guy had a gun or was about to smash into my car.<br />
My actions would have to be reasonable. And much like Joe Horn’s case in Texas, a jury should hear the evidence and decide if my actions were reasonable.</p>
<p>A jury, not my employer.</p>
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